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		<title>Michael Moore and his APIS</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A highly trained auditor recently reported this out-tech in the Freezone / Indpendent Scientology field: Michael Moore, the self-appointed head of APIS, approved an auditor showing the content of the PC folder to the PC and approved the gross evaluation &#8230; <a href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2012/05/15/michael-moore-and-his-apis/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A highly trained auditor recently reported this out-tech in the Freezone / Indpendent Scientology field:</p>
<p>Michael Moore, the self-appointed head of APIS, approved an auditor showing the content of the PC folder to the PC and approved the gross evaluation and 3Ping of his PCs with lies.</p>
<p>Michael Moore did the OT Drug Rundown on himself as a solo action.</p>
<p>His direct juniors openly endorse auditors who audit over the phone or Skype. They even endorse auditors who rewrote the Power Processes and run them over the phone like a psycho-analytic session including the evaluations. These auditors even publicly acknowledge that their invented processes make people unstable and that they use their PCs (without telling them , as they profess to be COMPLETELY STANDARD HUBBARD AUDITORS) as guinea pigs to experiment on.</p>
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		<title>Salbol case: mysterious murder on the wake of financial crimes</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FZ Survivors recently published the Court of Appeal decision which convicted Henrik Salbol to 2 years in jail. Salbol is an independent who is a member of Ron&#8217;s Org, the Freezone organization currently headed by Max Hauri in Switzerland. New &#8230; <a href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2012/04/11/salbol-case-mysterious-murder-on-the-wake-of-financial-crimes/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FZ Survivors recently published the Court of Appeal decision which convicted Henrik Salbol to 2 years in jail. Salbol is an independent who is a member of Ron&#8217;s Org, the Freezone organization currently headed by Max Hauri in Switzerland. New information has now come to light showing that one of Salbol&#8217;s ex-partners, Henrik Madsen who was convicted in absentia to 3 years of jail in the same case has been murdered according to Danish police. Madsen had apparently &#8220;disappeared&#8221; since November 2010.</p>
<p>A more complete account on this story and the the details surrounding it can be found in a Blog specialized in crime news:<a title="Independent Involved in a Murder case?" href="http://chriscrimeforum.freeforums.org/denmark-how-a-financial-crime-case-led-to-a-murder-case-t4175.html?sid=38e575fa75fcdfc6af75e924ec0527ff" target="_blank"> Chris Crime Forum</a>.</p>
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		<title>Court of Appeal Decision re Salbol</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 22:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here it is, a copy of the Court of Appeal decision that convicted Henrik Salbol to 2 years of jail plus monetary damages. It is now available in both Danish and English: Complete Court of Appeal Decision in Danish. Complete &#8230; <a href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2012/04/04/court-of-appeal-decision-re-salbol/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here it is, a copy of the Court of Appeal decision that convicted Henrik Salbol to 2 years of jail plus monetary damages.</p>
<p>It is now available in both Danish and English:</p>
<p><a title="Court of Appeal Decision re Salbol" href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2012/04/04/henrik-salbol-convicted-to-2-years-in-jail/110811-salbol-judgement/" target="_blank">Complete Court of Appeal Decision in Danish.</a></p>
<p><a title="Salbol Final Judgement in English" href="http://http://www.fzsurvivors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/110811-judgement-translation.rtf" target="_blank">Complete Court of Appeal Decision in English.</a></p>
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		<title>Henrik Salbol Convicted To 2 Years in Jail</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Henrik Salbol, a member of the Ron&#8217;s Org (Freezone) was convicted by the Court of Appeal in Denmark for tax fraud and embezzlement. He needs to serve 2 years of jail. We just received a copy of the Court of &#8230; <a href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2012/04/04/henrik-salbol-convicted-to-2-years-in-jail/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henrik Salbol, a member of the Ron&#8217;s Org (Freezone) was convicted by the Court of Appeal in Denmark for tax fraud and embezzlement. He needs to serve 2 years of jail.</p>
<p>We just received a copy of the Court of Appeal decision which found Salbol guilty of tax fraud and embezzlement. This is still in Danish but instead of waiting for a translation you may want to get started with Google Translate.</p>
<p>Please stay tuned, it will be published shortly.</p>
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		<title>A first class squirrel made illegal threats to Freezone Survivors site</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A first class squirrel sent 6 threats, 4 by comments on the Blog and 2 by e-mail targeting this web site. The reason: a couple of pages that have been on this web site for over 5 years and for &#8230; <a href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2011/07/11/a-first-class-squirrel-made-illegal-threats-to-freezone-survivors-site/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A first class squirrel sent 6 threats, 4 by comments on the Blog and 2 by e-mail targeting this web site. The reason: a couple of pages that have been on this web site for over 5 years and for which this squirrel never said anything to the FZ Survivors webmaster (though he knew of their existence). This same squirrel wanted to have all these pages taken down yet he didn&#8217;t provide any evidence to show that the data was wrong. He just said the data is wrong and made accusations and threats of revealing some alleged discreditable data he learned when he was an auditor on some individuals that have nothing to do with this web site.</p>
<p>This is of course an attack on freedom of speech and an attempt by this squirrel to intimidate the whistle blowers so that the truth won&#8217;t be available .</p>
<p>The bottom line is that this individual is a squirrel, he has been declared many years ago and as far as we know he never contested his declare so why he wakes up only now and goes on a rant about these pages is a mystery.</p>
<p>There are now several ex-clients of this individual who have come forward and are &#8220;spilling the beans&#8221;, the data that is coming up includes gross out-tech, outrageous squirreling with the individual concerned getting much worse after being &#8220;audited&#8221; by him, many  illegalities and more!</p>
<p>It was reported to us that this squirrel is boasting &#8220;Big Win Against the Church of Scientology.&#8221; Well that goes to show another suppressive person characteristic, i.e. an SP chooses always the wrong target. LOL!!! If the car doesn&#8217;t work this person will kick the cat!</p>
<p>In fact the result of this &#8220;big win&#8221; is that there are now even  more upset survivors that are fully determined to get this squirrel investigated for his crimes and his squirreling  activity exposed.</p>
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		<title>Is Rey Robles aiding and abetting forgery?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 05:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rey Robles has posted on various forums about a fake Ron&#8217;s Journal 38 which he claimed was written by LRH. While many Freezoners have already correctly labelled this &#8220;document&#8221; as a forgery Rey Robles not only didn&#8217;t listen to those &#8230; <a href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2011/05/30/is-rey-robles-aiding-and-abetting-forgery/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rey Robles has posted on various forums about a fake Ron&#8217;s Journal 38  which he claimed was written by LRH. While many Freezoners have already  correctly labelled this &#8220;document&#8221; as a forgery Rey Robles not only  didn&#8217;t listen to those comments he went ahead and made a Youtube video  where he &#8220;reveals&#8221; to the public the &#8220;incredible discovery&#8221; of this  fake message from LRH.</p>
<p><a title="Rey Robles and the fake RJ 38" href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/?page_id=662" target="_blank">Read complete article here.</a></p>
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		<title>Terril Park</title>
		<link>http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2011/02/16/terril-park/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=terril-park</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terril Park is a particular type of Freezoner, he is not directly involved in squirreling the tech but he thinks he has made a name for himself as &#8220;Freezone PR&#8221;. In other words he is marketing Freezone snake oil and &#8230; <a href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2011/02/16/terril-park/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Terril Park</strong> is a particular type of Freezoner, he is not directly involved in squirreling the tech but he thinks he has made a name for himself as &#8220;Freezone PR&#8221;. In other words he is marketing Freezone snake oil and trying to sell it as &#8220;pure tech&#8221;. Unfortunately it is apparent he never went to a PR or marketing class as otherwise he would have cleared the definition of &#8220;wrong public&#8221;. A Freezone Survivor recently gave us some information which is shedding some light as to why Terril Park&#8217;s efforts are not unlike those of Don Quixote!!</p>
<p><strong>Check this out:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/?page_id=436">Terril Park, the so called “Freezone PR”.</a></p>
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		<title>Aida Thomas&#8217; squirreling</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 00:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This comment that has just been received it&#8217;s worth posting. It mentions auditor&#8217;s code violations and very bizarre behavior by Aida Thomas. Very interesting reading. [SIC] “Out Tech Alert: Aida Thomas ———— – Recently Aida went to Durham in the &#8230; <a href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2010/12/23/aida-thomas-squirreling/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>This comment that has just been received it&#8217;s worth posting. It mentions auditor&#8217;s code violations and very bizarre behavior by Aida Thomas. Very interesting reading. </strong></span></p>
<p>[SIC]<br />
“Out Tech Alert: Aida Thomas</p>
<p>———— –<br />
Recently Aida went to Durham in the UK to audit two people, a mother and  daughter. After she left I recieved 2 mails from the mother detailing  her upsets with Aida.<br />
……</p>
<p>Aida once told me that she starts all clients with ethics handlings.  It looks to me that Aida has some big misunderstandings with ethics  although she considers<br />
herself an expert. Aida also seems paranoid about doing interviews with  people to then have them go to other auditors. This may be becuase of  screwy ethics actions. ……<br />
….</p>
<p>There were very serious auditors code breaks, and I will just mention  a few. I believe there were probably many others. Aida said to the  daughter that she likes to say things out of session to people so as to  restimulate more things to handle in session.</p>
<p>That isn’t scientology.</p>
<p>Bear in mind Aida was living in their house. In the end the mother  was so enturbulated by Diana that she couldn’t sleep. Diana then assigns  her an ethics condition to handle not sleeping! At one point Diana says  the C/S has told her not to talk to the mother out of session, I  believe the daughter told me this and heard that the C/Ses name was  Julia. Aida told me her husband was the C/S. I wonder if there was in  fact a C/S.</p>
<p>Finally the husband one night seeing the distress of his wife said  that it would be best if the daughter and Aida go to sleep at the  daughters so that the mother could get some sleep. He drove Diana and  the daughter there which is only a 4 minute walk away.</p>
<p>He said he’d come back in the morning to let Aida know if the mother was sessionable.</p>
<p>The mother in fact then decided she no longer wanted to carry on with Aida.</p>
<p>That night Aida tore out many pages from the mothers PC folder and  told the daughter she didn’t want to carry the folders around europe,  and she was leaving the important ones in.She told the daughter that her  mother was mentally ill and suppressive.</p>
<p>……</p>
<p>At one point the daughter tells Aida in session about a two year  relationship that ended badly. At the end of the session after cans were  put down Aida tells the daughter she was a loose woman because she had a  relationship outside of Marriage. They then go down to the kitchen and  Aida tells the mother that her daughter is a loose woman. Niether were  happy about this, and Aida also forces or persuades the daughter to  address this in an ethics handling.</p>
<p>At one point the mother tells of a past indiscretion. After session  they go down to the kitchen where the daughter is and Aida refers the  daughter indirectly to this incident. The mother was not happy about  this.</p>
<p>Another time Aida discusses her mothers case with the daughter with  the mother in earshot. The mother was not happy about this! See mail  from daughter on this. Aida told me it was the daughter asking Aida  about her mothers case. In fact Aida was asking the daughter about the  mother and husbands sex life!</p>
<p>The whole period appears to be a traumatic incident to the mother.  She occasionally commented when speaking to me that she was trying to  block the memories out.</p>
<p>Diana gave only one session addressing the daughters wants in 3 or 4  weeks. Saying she found it difficult to access the case. This seems  extrordinary to me as the daughter sits in the middle of her ruin  everyday. She has irrital bowel syndrome and because of this has near  constant diahrea and can’t get sufficient nutrients in her body and is  very thin. This also makes it difficult to go out places, and panic  attacks are all connected with this. Diana seems to have found it a  priority to do $1500 of ethics handlings and word clearing.</p>
<p>The husband and a friend of his were also interested in getting some  auditing, but now the husband dosn’t want anything to do with  scientology.</p>
<p>best wishes<br />
Terril”</p>
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		<title>Tommy Thompson: Is this a Scam or is He just Stupid?</title>
		<link>http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2010/12/17/tommy-thompson-is-this-a-scam-or-is-he-just-stupid/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=tommy-thompson-is-this-a-scam-or-is-he-just-stupid</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THIS WAS RECENTLY POSTED ON ICAUSE BY TOMMY THOMPSON: &#8220;Morning folks: &#8220;Well there is a first time for everything I suppose, and I find myself in a position that I need help finally. &#8220;Not to play any sympathy card, but &#8230; <a href="http://www.fzsurvivors.com/2010/12/17/tommy-thompson-is-this-a-scam-or-is-he-just-stupid/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS WAS RECENTLY POSTED ON ICAUSE BY TOMMY THOMPSON:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Morning folks:</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Well there is a first time for everything I suppose, and I find myself in a position that I need help finally.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Not to play any sympathy card, but just as data, this is what happened. I sent some money to the Ukraine for an apartment, food and things, as I will be arriving there just before Christmas.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;The person I sent it to had a niece that got sick. Took them to the hospital, discovered it was pnuemonia. A few tests later, was far more than that, and not curable in the hospital in ukraine. So had to take niece to Russia to a specalist hospital to save their life. Looks like they will survive.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;So they stole the money from me. They took my money and used it to save her life.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;What can I say? At this moment, I have no reserves to cover this. I can not just change the plans. I can&#8217;t even really bitch for them stealing it from me.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;So I am asking for help. A hand out if you will, or an advance on services if you want. I lost about $2000, hard money that will put me eating rice and beans in -20 degree weather, looking around for an apartment over new years when they will be ten times as expensive.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Anyway I am in trouble a bit. I need some money, I never thought I would ever have to ask it.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;But I have helped a lot of you guys over the years. I could sure use some help now. I never really asked for anything.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;So what do you say? Can you send me whatever you can to founder@&#8230; via paypal? If it is a xmas present thank You very much. If it is an advance on your bridge, then it will be delivered.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Thanks, and all the best.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Tommy&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I know that Tommy has been giving his clients some of the worst auditing I have ever seen, but now could he really be resorting to scamming people?</p>
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<p>From: The Oracle  Subject: Your attack on Ivan re: parenting responsibilities<br />
To: dianaclass8@yahoo.com<br />
Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 10:06 PM</p>
<p>You once wrote to me: &#8220;Your posts are stupid.&#8221;</p>
<p>I write to you:   You are stupid.  You are also sadistic and dishonest.  You are at the forefront of every witchhunt.  During my comm eve you became so crazed lunging at me and spitting on me, a break was called, and I was huddled with your co members to discuss how we could get through it with you in the condition you in.  You were right out of a  Spanish Inquisition.  I actually received an apology from Int Justice Chief after hearing those tapes. All of my justice cycles were cancelled.</p>
<p>YOU were my last straw in Scientology and why I never returned.</p>
<p>You became a complete fraud pretending we had never met when I ran into you at NKW&#8217;s. You defrauded me. You have defrauded people that know us both by not telling them what you did and who you were in that comm ev, given a teeny smidget of power on someone&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care too much about me, that you have still witheld truth from mutual aquaintances.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust you. This is not about me. I am tired of having conversations where your name comes up knowng people have no clue about us because you lie and withold data.</p>
<p>So, for the future, I have said what I have to say about you to you, and I will not mention your name again.</p>
<p>This is not so much about me, as Ivan.  Ivan, was very valuable to many people.  He made greater sacrifices than you will ever know.</p>
<p>For you, who admitted to me that you beat your challenged daughter as a class 8, to go on ESMB and trash Ivan about parenting responsibilities, is absurd.  It&#8217;s your inability to curb your sadism.</p>
<p>Now, how would you like it if I went on ESMB and recounted our little experience from when we were both in the Church?  As a credit to me, I have not bothered your reputation about that, or your fraud, or any of the other crimes people have emailed to me.</p>
<p>But if you do not get on ESMB and delete your attack on Ivan, I will reregister there, and on every forum, and use your methods of disableing people right back on to you.</p>
<p>I sacificed my relationship with Nancy, to avoid dumping on her and causing her a loss of the friendship between you, in terms of witholding data about you, that I knew you would not want her to know.</p>
<p>For the record, you have NEVER had a valid excuse for your actions towards me.</p>
<p>I am not you.  But I am sick of you popping out of the woodwork and torturing and humiliating others given an excuse or unchecked opportunity.</p>
<p>You had better get your scope off Ivan and keep it off.  If I catch you working to torture or humiliate him in ANY way shape or form,  I WILL lay all the data about you right out on the public forums.</p>
<p>You had better pull your claws out of him and keep them out.</p>
<p>Go find another target!  Or we shall outline your parenting responsibilities! in the public forum,.</p>
<p>You have a LOT of nerve to be running your mouth about other people as parents!</p>
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